{"id":2221,"date":"2008-07-21T18:24:49","date_gmt":"2008-07-21T18:24:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/2008\/07\/21\/la-victoire-de\/"},"modified":"2012-07-12T10:49:15","modified_gmt":"2012-07-12T10:49:15","slug":"la-victoire-de","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/2008\/07\/21\/la-victoire-de\/","title":{"rendered":"La victoire de l&rsquo;OTAN en Afghanistan est impossible."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/files\/2012\/07\/images_2287.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"250\" height=\"188\"  src=\"http:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/files\/2012\/07\/images_2125.jpg\" alt=\"Images_2\" style=\"margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px;float: left\" \/><\/a> Cette phrase est De G\u00e9rard Chaliand. Avec bient\u00f4t 80 000 soldats sur place et 58 000 soldats Afghans (bient\u00f4t 80 000), il n&rsquo; y a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lemonde.fr\/asie-pacifique\/article\/2008\/07\/21\/la-victoire-de-l-otan-en-afghanistan-est-impossible_1075405_3216.html#ens_id=1074096\">aucune chance de vaincre<\/a> les talibans, qui ont d&rsquo;abord reconquis politiquement les populations pachtounes paysannes, en occupant un vide politique jamais remplis.<br \/>La r\u00e9sistance Afghane est devenue essentiellement nationale, et les Jihadistes ont \u00e9t\u00e9 extr\u00eamement affaiblis.<br \/>Sont responsables de cette renaissance, la corruption, les bombardements aveugles, le vide politique, militaire ainsi que la carence g\u00e9n\u00e9ralis\u00e9e de la reconstruction.<\/p>\n<p>La<a href=\"http:\/\/www.lemonde.fr\/asie-pacifique\/article\/2008\/07\/21\/l-afghanistan-s-invite-dans-la-campagne-americaine_1075400_3216.html\"> proposition d&rsquo;Obama<\/a> d&rsquo;\u00e9vacuer l&rsquo;Irak pour <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lemonde.fr\/elections-americaines\/article\/2008\/07\/21\/le-soutien-irakien-au-plan-de-barack-obama-suscite-la-polemique_1075655_829254.html\">pacifier l&rsquo;Afghanistan<\/a> a peu de chances de rencontrer du succ\u00e8s. <br \/>Les sovi\u00e9tiques y disposaient de 400 000 hommes (sovi\u00e9tiques et afghans), disposant d&rsquo;une certaine base populaire, au moins tribale, ainsi que d&rsquo;une infrastructure \u00e9tatique.<br \/>On peut donc s&rsquo;attendre \u00e0 une intensification de la guerre, mais avec des r\u00e9sultats m\u00e9diocres, comme en Irak.<br \/>La grosse arri\u00e8re pens\u00e9e qu&rsquo;il y avait dans ce conflit (le gazoduc vers l&rsquo;asie centrale) est de moins en moins de mise.<br \/>On pourra certes, toujours y acc\u00e9der, mais par l&rsquo;Iran. Ce qui n&rsquo;est pas du go\u00fbt de certains.<br \/>Si, selon G Chaliand, rien n&rsquo;est perdu, il faut tout reprendre \u00e0 z\u00e9ro, apr\u00e8s six ans de guerre.<br \/>On voit r\u00e9apparaitre le sch\u00e9ma classique, essayer de gagner <a href=\"http:\/\/journauxdeguerre.lalibreblogs.be\/archive\/2008\/07\/19\/n-193-journal-de-l-afghanistan-12-07-au-18-07-%E2%80%93-debut-la-res.html\">la guerre autrement<\/a>, avec les r\u00e9sultats habituels, nuls. <br \/>Ce genre de manoeuvre \u00e9tant certes utiles, mais au d\u00e9part des conflits.<br \/>6 ans plus tard, c&rsquo;est largement trop tard.<\/p>\n<p>Lundi 21 juillet 2008<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cette phrase est De G\u00e9rard Chaliand. Avec bient\u00f4t 80 000 soldats sur place et 58 000 soldats Afghans (bient\u00f4t 80 000), il n&rsquo; y a aucune chance de vaincre les talibans, qui ont d&rsquo;abord reconquis politiquement les populations pachtounes paysannes, en occupant un vide politique jamais remplis.La r\u00e9sistance Afghane est devenue essentiellement nationale, et les [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":198,"featured_media":9594,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,3],"tags":[833],"class_list":["post-2221","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-actualites","category-energie-fossile","tag-aucune-chance-de-vaincre-la-guerre-autrement"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>La victoire de l&#039;OTAN en Afghanistan est impossible. - leblogenergie.com<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/2008\/07\/21\/la-victoire-de\/\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:title\" content=\"La victoire de l&#039;OTAN en Afghanistan est impossible. - leblogenergie.com\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:description\" content=\"Cette phrase est De G\u00e9rard Chaliand. 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