{"id":4032,"date":"2007-06-14T16:12:17","date_gmt":"2007-06-14T16:12:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/2007\/06\/14\/forts-forts-for\/"},"modified":"2012-07-12T09:57:47","modified_gmt":"2012-07-12T09:57:47","slug":"forts-forts-for","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/2007\/06\/14\/forts-forts-for\/","title":{"rendered":"For\u00eats, for\u00eats, for\u00eats, vous avez dit for\u00eats ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/files\/2012\/07\/photos_51_21.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"250\" height=\"187\"  alt=\"Photos_51_2\" src=\"http:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/files\/2012\/07\/photos_51_2.jpg\" style=\"margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px;float: left\" \/><\/a> &quot;Tout \u00e0 fait d&rsquo;accord avec ce point de vue: la dynamique enclench\u00e9e dans l&rsquo;\u00e9tablissement de tels projets doit \u00eatre locale pour ne pas perturber la gestion des for\u00eats ni venir en concurrence d&rsquo;autres usages. Malheureusement, je connais de nombreux exemples d&rsquo;installations qui, en raison d&rsquo;un manque de gisements \u00e0 proximit\u00e9, fonctionnent avec de la biomasse foresti\u00e8re qui a parcouru plus de 200km, voire bien plus dans quelques cas&#8230;pas tr\u00e8s durable comme syst\u00e8me, sans compter les externalit\u00e9s environnementales!<br \/>Pour autant, comme il \u00e9tait pr\u00e9cis\u00e9 dans l&rsquo;article initial, la biomasse foresti\u00e8re est mal exploit\u00e9e: mais parle-t-on d&rsquo;une biomasse mobilisable \u00e0 des co\u00fbts \u00e9conomiquement supportables pour les industriels? Pour ma part je dirais que c&rsquo;est difficile \u00e0 \u00e9valuer, et le constat est clair: m\u00eame si le gisement th\u00e9orique n&rsquo;a jamais \u00e9t\u00e9 aussi abondant, les industriels qui se lancent aujourd&rsquo;hui dans des projets de valorisation \u00e9nerg\u00e9tique de la biomasse peinent \u00e0 trouver du bois pour alimenter leurs chaufferies&#8230;Alors que doit faire un industriel: acheter des for\u00eats pour s\u00e9curiser ses approvisionnements, financer du bois sur pied, des actions sylvicoles..?&quot;<\/p>\n<p>En r\u00e9alit\u00e9, la question pos\u00e9e par cette internaute d\u00e9passe largement le cadre&#8230; La question est riche. Et la r\u00e9ponse connue. La perdurabilit\u00e9 implique une gestion patrimoniale, une vue inter-g\u00e9n\u00e9rationnelle \u00e0 tr\u00e9s long terme. Un peu ce qui a pr\u00e9valu dans les landes. Une gestion paysanne qui a int\u00e9gr\u00e9 le jeu des g\u00e9n\u00e9rations, dans tous les domaines. Ce qui n&rsquo;\u00e9tait pas gagn\u00e9 d&rsquo;avance. Il a fallu convertir les populations \u00e0 la sauvegarde des for\u00eats, le futur contre l&rsquo;imm\u00e9diat. En ce qui concerne la question &quot;stock&quot;, la gestion des bois est celle ou la notion de &quot;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.leblogfinance.com\/2006\/06\/la_c4_larrt_sui.html\">flux tendu<\/a>&quot; est la plus idiote, en effet, on travaille sur une r\u00e9colte qui peut s&rsquo;effectuer \u00e0 300 ans de distance&#8230; <br \/>Un for\u00eat est un r\u00e9colte en attente, et la fili\u00e8re repose sur les stocks : en mati\u00e8re physique : r\u00e9serves pures et simples, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ifn.fr\/spip\/article.php3?id_article=143\">stocks sur pieds<\/a>, qui fait qu&rsquo;on a toujours&nbsp; une longueur d&rsquo;avance, qui permet de vendre cher un bois valoris\u00e9, et de vendre tout simplement en p\u00e9riode de tension de prix&#8230; De toute fa\u00e7on, la qualit\u00e9 est toujours mieux \u00e9coul\u00e9e, et ne co\u00fbte pas forc\u00e9ment bien plus cher \u00e0 r\u00e9aliser, sauf en vue d&rsquo;avenir, et en concepts&#8230;<br \/>L&rsquo;inverse de ce que l&rsquo;on apprend dans les \u00e9coles aujourd&rsquo;hui, et du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.leblogenergie.com\/2007\/05\/zro_stock_et_ju.html\">z\u00e9ro stock<\/a>. Mais ceux qui ont fait s&rsquo;en sont toujours bien port\u00e9s. Et pas seulement dans les bois.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&quot;Tout \u00e0 fait d&rsquo;accord avec ce point de vue: la dynamique enclench\u00e9e dans l&rsquo;\u00e9tablissement de tels projets doit \u00eatre locale pour ne pas perturber la gestion des for\u00eats ni venir en concurrence d&rsquo;autres usages. Malheureusement, je connais de nombreux exemples d&rsquo;installations qui, en raison d&rsquo;un manque de gisements \u00e0 proximit\u00e9, fonctionnent avec de la biomasse [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":198,"featured_media":5703,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[1748],"class_list":["post-4032","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-actualites","tag-stocks-sur-pieds-flux-tendu-zero-stock"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>For\u00eats, for\u00eats, for\u00eats, vous avez dit for\u00eats ? - leblogenergie.com<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/2007\/06\/14\/forts-forts-for\/\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:title\" content=\"For\u00eats, for\u00eats, for\u00eats, vous avez dit for\u00eats ? - leblogenergie.com\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:description\" content=\"&quot;Tout \u00e0 fait d&rsquo;accord avec ce point de vue: la dynamique enclench\u00e9e dans l&rsquo;\u00e9tablissement de tels projets doit \u00eatre locale pour ne pas perturber la gestion des for\u00eats ni venir en concurrence d&rsquo;autres usages. 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