{"id":4315,"date":"2007-03-12T13:34:09","date_gmt":"2007-03-12T13:34:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/2007\/03\/12\/nimby\/"},"modified":"2012-07-12T09:52:26","modified_gmt":"2012-07-12T09:52:26","slug":"nimby","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/2007\/03\/12\/nimby\/","title":{"rendered":"NIMBY"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/files\/2012\/07\/coursloire_21.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"250\" height=\"249\"  alt=\"Coursloire_2\" src=\"http:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/files\/2012\/07\/coursloire_2.jpg\" style=\"margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px;float: left\" \/><\/a> &quot;Ce que je retient de voynet ministre, c&rsquo;est qu&rsquo;elle a ferm\u00e9 super Phoenix (compr\u00e9hensible) et emp\u00e9ch\u00e9e la construction du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rivernet.org\/rhinrhon\/rhrho1_f.htm\">canal Rhin Rhone <\/a>(l\u00e0 je ne vois pas pourquoi les \u00e9colos \u00e9taient oppos\u00e9s au transport fluvial)&quot; Je remercies fifi de me donner mati\u00e8re \u00e0 rebondir pour un autre article.<br \/>on peut ajouter aussi la non construction du barrage de Serre de la fare, en haute-loire, l\u00e0 non plus, je n&rsquo;ai pu comprendre qu&rsquo;apr\u00e9s moult r\u00e9flexions.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Les \u00e9cologistes n&rsquo;ont pas compris ni accept\u00e9 que le pays soit industriel, pourtant ce n&rsquo;est pas d&rsquo;hier, les gouvernements contemporains de la peste noire ont \u00e9t\u00e9 surpris par le poids de l&rsquo;industrie dans le pays, pris par un ciseau (l&rsquo;effondrement des prix agricoles cons\u00e9cutifs \u00e0 la d\u00e9population), l&rsquo;envol des prix des mati\u00e9res animales (lait et beurre, entre autre) et l&rsquo;explosion des produits manufactur\u00e9s. Ceci etait d\u00fbe \u00e0 la structure fiscale des pr\u00e9levements :<br \/>&#8211; en nature pour l&rsquo;\u00e9glise,<br \/>&#8211; en travail pour le noble,<br \/>&#8211; en argent, absolument pour le roi, donc ce qui implique, l&rsquo;obligation d&rsquo;un travail r\u00e9mun\u00e9r\u00e9 en argent, l&rsquo;exception \u00e9tant le paysan pur et simple. Tous avaient un deuxieme travail&nbsp; : artisanal ou industriel diffus.<br \/>&#8211; le canal rhin \/rhone : zone trop peupl\u00e9,<br \/>&#8211; serre de la fare : trop depeupl\u00e9, va comprendre charles&#8230;<br \/>L&rsquo;\u00e9cologie politique est souvent un alibi \u00e0 ne rien faire (ou plutot \u00e0 reporter sine die les grands investissements pour cause de politique monetaire idiote). Les \u00e9cologistes se retrouvent dans un camp du &quot;non \u00e0 tout&quot; : une route avec 25 000 vehicules jours devait etre d\u00e9vi\u00e9, 3 possibilit\u00e9s, <br \/>&#8211; la plus couteuse (pour cause d&rsquo;expropriation), l&rsquo;agrandissement dans le bourg , refus\u00e9,<br \/>&#8211; le contournement par la zone industrielle, refus\u00e9,(\u00e7a prenait de l&rsquo;espace),<br \/>&#8211; le 2\u00b0contournement, refus\u00e9, proximit\u00e9 de la rivi\u00e8re, refus\u00e9.<br \/>Propos\u00e9, rien.<br \/>Donc il faut en conclure, que ce n&rsquo;est que l&rsquo;alibi des gens d\u00e9rang\u00e9s \u00e0 proximit\u00e9&#8230;<br \/>Par contre, on est pour :<br \/>&#8211; la r\u00e9introduction du loup, la r\u00e9introduction de l&rsquo;ours, car l\u00e0 aussi , on croit qu&rsquo;il y a des zones sauvages en France. <br \/>M\u00e9connaissance totale du probl\u00e8me : au 18\u00b0si\u00e9cle, ce sont les troupeaux de moutons qui nourrissaient les loups, et la disparition du troupeau au 19\u00b0 (il est pass\u00e9 de 30 millions de t\u00eates \u00e0 7) a entrain\u00e9, m\u00e9caniquement la fin du loup pour cause de famine.<br \/>Si les populations rurales n&rsquo;acceptent pas, il n&rsquo;y a pas lieu de leur imposer (pas plus qu&rsquo;on ne l&rsquo;impose aux parisiens), d&rsquo;autant plus que les populations rurales ont une grande habitude du poison, ce qui pour l&rsquo;ensemble de la faune pourrait tourner au carnage, le poison ne faisant pas de distinction, \u00e0 l&rsquo;inverse du fusil.<br \/>Le loup n&rsquo;attaque pas l&rsquo;homme disent ils, c&rsquo;est partiellement vrai, il pr\u00e9f\u00e9re, comme tous les canid\u00e9s attaquer plus petits : les enfants, ou moins puissant, les femmes.<br \/>L&rsquo;\u00e9cologiste est donc un rat urbain d\u00e9phas\u00e9, repr\u00e9sentatif de la noblesse d&rsquo;\u00e9tat. Les affrontements avec les chasseurs sont aussi le signe d&rsquo;un m\u00e9pris total du peuple, dans la droite ligne des nobles du 18\u00b0si\u00e9cle ( &quot;25 ans plus tard, \u00e0 la veille de la r\u00e9volution, il n&rsquo;y avait pas 50 mousquets en dehors des chateaux dans toute la province&quot; J Denis &quot;la bete du g\u00e9vaudan&quot;). Les armes, c&rsquo;est pas fait pour le peuple. <br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rivernet.org\/loire\/loirevivante\/camp2_f.htm\">Serre de la fare<\/a> \u00e9tait on peut peut plus propre : l&rsquo;hydroelectricit\u00e9, m\u00eame cela, les \u00e9cologistes sont contre. Et pourtant, l\u00e0 haut,il n&rsquo;y avait plus grand monde (14 habitants au km2). <\/p>\n<p>NIMBY : not in my backyard (pas dans mon arriere cours).<\/p>\n<p>gnu free documentation license<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&quot;Ce que je retient de voynet ministre, c&rsquo;est qu&rsquo;elle a ferm\u00e9 super Phoenix (compr\u00e9hensible) et emp\u00e9ch\u00e9e la construction du canal Rhin Rhone (l\u00e0 je ne vois pas pourquoi les \u00e9colos \u00e9taient oppos\u00e9s au transport fluvial)&quot; Je remercies fifi de me donner mati\u00e8re \u00e0 rebondir pour un autre article.on peut ajouter aussi la non construction du [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":198,"featured_media":5142,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[2016],"class_list":["post-4315","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-actualites","tag-canal-rhin-rhone-serre-de-la-fare"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>NIMBY - leblogenergie.com<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/2007\/03\/12\/nimby\/\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:title\" content=\"NIMBY - leblogenergie.com\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:description\" content=\"&quot;Ce que je retient de voynet ministre, c&rsquo;est qu&rsquo;elle a ferm\u00e9 super Phoenix (compr\u00e9hensible) et emp\u00e9ch\u00e9e la construction du canal Rhin Rhone (l\u00e0 je ne vois pas pourquoi les \u00e9colos \u00e9taient oppos\u00e9s au transport fluvial)&quot; 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