{"id":4384,"date":"2007-02-21T21:45:28","date_gmt":"2007-02-21T21:45:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/2007\/02\/21\/tours-ou-pas-to\/"},"modified":"2012-07-12T09:50:32","modified_gmt":"2012-07-12T09:50:32","slug":"tours-ou-pas-to","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/2007\/02\/21\/tours-ou-pas-to\/","title":{"rendered":"Tours ou pas tours ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/files\/2012\/07\/tours1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"250\" height=\"166\"  alt=\"Tours\" src=\"http:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/files\/2012\/07\/tours.jpg\" style=\"margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px;float: left\" \/><\/a>Le maire de Paris repose le probl\u00e8me des tours. Abordons ici, le probl\u00e8me sous l&rsquo;angle \u00e9nerg\u00e9tique. <br \/>On dit souvent qu&rsquo;il vaut mieux des tours que le d\u00e9veloppement des <a href=\"http:\/\/antivoitures.free.fr\/2006\/02\/les-lotissements-priurbains-seront-les.html\">lotissements<\/a> \u00e0 perte de vue. Peut \u00eatre. <br \/>Mais cela d\u00e9pend essentiellement comment est fait le lotissement, et plut\u00f4t quelle norme on y applique. Explications. Arriver \u00e0 la maison autonome pour l&rsquo;individuel est facile. C&rsquo;est uniquement une question de norme. En gros, on dit &quot;voil\u00e0, \u00e7a se passera comme \u00e7a&quot;, c&rsquo;est facile, simple et peu co\u00fbteux, finalement. Oui, parce que quand la norme change, le prix global int\u00e9gre le changement. La production industrialis\u00e9e, passe par l\u00e0 et assimile rapidement.<\/p>\n<p> En revanche, on dit que le grand collectif est plus \u00e9conome \u00e9cologiquement. Faux, compl\u00e9tement.<br \/>D&rsquo;abord, l&rsquo;entassement de la population cr\u00e9e des pollutions, oblige \u00e0 des d\u00e9placements longs, est co\u00fbteux \u00e9nerg\u00e9tiquement \u00e0 construire, et ne pourra jamais \u00eatre autonome. Ni par <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ideesmaison.com\/Installer-une-cuve-de-recuperation.html\">r\u00e9cup\u00e9ration des eaux de pluies<\/a>, ni par production de son \u00e9lectricit\u00e9, ni par l&rsquo;utilisation de la g\u00e9othermie.<br \/>De plus quand on dit tours, on dit aussi <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ale-grenoble.org\/uploads\/Document\/ae\/WEB_CHEMIN_202_1165483055\">ascenseurs<\/a>. Et l&rsquo;ascenseur est quand m\u00eame co\u00fbteux \u00e9nerg\u00e9tiquement en consommations. De plus la population, entass\u00e9e, ne travaille pas forc\u00e9ment \u00e0 l&rsquo;endroit o\u00f9 elle r\u00e9side. Donc l&rsquo;avantage en d\u00e9placement n&rsquo;est pas \u00e9vident. 400 logements en p\u00e9riph\u00e9rie en collectif, ou 400 en individuel, c&rsquo;est pratiquement la m\u00eame somme de d\u00e9placements.<br \/>L&rsquo;entassement aussi multiplie les pollutions. Trait\u00e9 les eaux us\u00e9es de la RP et une population \u00e9quivalente r\u00e9partie sur un territoire plus grand, ce n&rsquo;est pas la m\u00eame chose. On voit les lagunages en zone rurale. La zone urbaine, elle exige une usine.<br \/>Non, le maire de Paris n&rsquo;a pas pos\u00e9 la bonne question. Toujours la m\u00eame, celle de l&rsquo;hypertrophie parisienne, favoris\u00e9e, et entretenue par les transports en commun. Le d\u00e9veloppement parisien est favoris\u00e9 par la ratp et la sncf. Les d\u00e9ficits de ces deux entreprises doivent \u00eatre prises comme elles sont : une formidable prime \u00e0 l&rsquo;hypertrophie. Ailleurs, les habitants se d&#8230;\u00e9brouillent avec leurs moyens personnels de transports (et doivent en prime subirent les le\u00e7ons de morale).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Le maire de Paris repose le probl\u00e8me des tours. Abordons ici, le probl\u00e8me sous l&rsquo;angle \u00e9nerg\u00e9tique. On dit souvent qu&rsquo;il vaut mieux des tours que le d\u00e9veloppement des lotissements \u00e0 perte de vue. Peut \u00eatre. Mais cela d\u00e9pend essentiellement comment est fait le lotissement, et plut\u00f4t quelle norme on y applique. Explications. Arriver \u00e0 la [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":198,"featured_media":5004,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[2076],"class_list":["post-4384","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-actualites","tag-ascenseurs-hypertrophie-parisienne-lotissement"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Tours ou pas tours ? - leblogenergie.com<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.thesocialmedia.com\/leblogenergie\/2007\/02\/21\/tours-ou-pas-to\/\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:title\" content=\"Tours ou pas tours ? - leblogenergie.com\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:description\" content=\"Le maire de Paris repose le probl\u00e8me des tours. 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